Curse

Master Knightfall · Jan 14, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

I find playing a game on for vanity sake a bit immature anyways. There is no power in how one looks in this game only in how one plays. I've seen some very skilled players in 1500gp gear and I don't think the worse of them for it either.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 14, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

My exact feelings, the armor you wear has nothing to do with your ability to play the game well. The game is about using your skills properly.

garethporlest18 · Jan 14, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Master Knightfall

I find playing a game on for vanity sake a bit immature anyways. There is no power in how one looks in this game only in how one plays. I've seen some very skilled players in 1500gp gear and I don't think the worse of them for it either.

I don't understand how it would be immature. Sure thinking it makes you better at the game might be, but..females dressing up to look pretty in real life is immature?

In case any misunderstood that analogy; playing this game for vanity's sake would relate to females dressing up in real life, maybe not all the way but pretty close.

Taki · Jan 14, 2008, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Take a break, enjoy the other great games out there that are still fresh, get more involved in PvP, or just quit if you've feel you've got your moneys worth.

For some other players, whom I hope are new to the game, know this:

You can catch a ball in a cup. You can catch a ball in a cup with your other hand. You can catch a ball in a cup sitting down. You can catch a ball in a cup on your side. You can catch a ball in a cup behind you back. You can catch a ball in a cup upside down. You can catch a ball in a cup riding a horse. You can catch a ball in a cup wearing purple panty hose. You can catch a ball in a cup wearing a cup. You can catch a ball in a cup dodging traffic.

There are countless ways to catch a ball in a cup.... just like there are countless ways of re-playing, re-doing, re-hashing, the same damn things in the static Guild Wars world. After the magic of the initial experience, neither of these provide much fun for the average person w/o psychological/social issues. So claiming there's a million more ways to catch a ball in a cup/play Guild Wars as a reason to keep playing is pretty ****ing dumb and you really should go catch that ball in a cup, in traffic.

Longasc · Jan 14, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Do you know why I stopped at 26 titles, Gareth, even if I want r6 KOABD so much?

Because opening 10.000 chests and similar things are not fun to me.

He wants elite armor sets without doing too much for it. I can see this for FoW armor, but he was speaking in plural about elite armors in general.

If the things one has to do to get that armor or whatever are already "not fun" for that particular person, then he should really give up on his idea and do something that is fun for him.

Keithark · Jan 14, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by strcpy

I guess I would also say - why do you feel the need to get those items? They offer no advantage whatsoever and in many cases don't even look as nice as the common stuff. Are you perhaps also motivated by the rarity? If so, then just realize that you can not have rare stuff trivial to obtain - otherwise it isn't rare.

You don't need it at all, there is *no* need to grind for gold in this game. The only reason is for vanities sake and it will not have any vanity value if everyone can simply get it, there has to be *some* work in getting it. Heck, if you want to plunk down 10 (or is it still 5) dollars per campaign you don't even need to grind faction for unlocks in PvP - which was previously the only real required grind in the game (but then only if you played higher end PvP and again we were looking at "higher end").

Sick of this argument..there is a "need" if you like the way one armor looks better than the other then you "need" it to make the game more enjoyable for you. Do you only wear clothes from Wal-Mart? Do you (or your parents) drive a 30 year old Honda Accord 4 cylinder? Do you live in a 1 bedroom apartment and only drink water and eat beans and cornbread? Because that is all you "need" to get by right so why would anyone want anything better? /end sarcasm

garethporlest18 · Jan 14, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Do you know why I stopped at 26 titles, Gareth, even if I want r6 KOABD so much?

Because opening 10.000 chests and similar things are not fun to me.

He wants elite armor sets without doing too much for it. I can see this for FoW armor, but he was speaking in plural about elite armors in general.

If the things one has to do to get that armor or whatever are already "not fun" for that particular person, then he should really give up on his idea and do something that is fun for him.

I don't go farther in my title track for the same reason.

He should give up because it's not fun; but it's his will.

Longasc · Jan 14, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Not in response to a post in particular, but as we are already so far:

Arguing pro/contra against "you do not need it" is a circular argument.

You can of course say all the time "you do not need it", agreed.

But what "fun" is is very different for various people, as well as the amount of un-fun activities needed to get something. As it does not seem possible to get everything through activities that are always pure fun.

Personette · Jan 14, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

I have to say, I am pretty fascinated by the energy a lot of guys put into dressing up their characters. There must be tons of guys here who agonize about getting their armor combo right (do these shoes go with these pants? What about the dye?) but who fall asleep at the mere sight of a real clothing store and walk around every day in shapeless shlubby clothes.

What's the deal guys? Am I seeing a lot of sugar-daddies-in-training? Is this where it starts?

lakatz · Jan 14, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Personette

I have to say, I am pretty fascinated by the energy a lot of guys put into dressing up their characters. There must be tons of guys here who agonize about getting their armor combo right (do these shoes go with these pants? What about the dye?) but who fall asleep at the mere sight of a real clothing store and walk around every day in shapeless shlubby clothes.

Pardon me? Sugar-daddies-in-training? Sugar daddies are simply older men who date younger women and sweeten them up with gifts to get them to date them. I don't get your sugar-daddy connection to dressing up.

And OP, in reference to your subject line, "Basic Comprehension Problem," what are you having a problem comprehending? I can't tell from your post.

Abnaxus · Jan 14, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Do you know why I stopped at 26 titles, Gareth, even if I want r6 KOABD so much?

Because opening 10.000 chests and similar things are not fun to me.

He wants elite armor sets without doing too much for it. I can see this for FoW armor, but he was speaking in plural about elite armors in general.

If the things one has to do to get that armor or whatever are already "not fun" for that particular person, then he should really give up on his idea and do something that is fun for him.

We agreed about this in my thread, and we agree now.

There are 26 (or 27) PvE-only titles that can be maxed with 1k armor + collectors weapons + skills.
To successfully fight in the hardest areas of the game, that's all you need.

But r6 KoaBD, which should be the reward for your skill in PvE when you have beaten every aspect of it, is not achievable unless dedicating hundreds of hours to pure farming, and sometimes low level farming (gargoyles ouside Nolani for spiked eggnogs).

You shouldn't need to farm to achieve the max rank in PvE.
This is imo one of the biggest issues in this game, which is advertised with skill over time.

Personette · Jan 14, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

By sugar daddy I mean a guy who gets his kicks off of dolling someone else up, decking out a woman in clothes and shoes and handbags or whatever at his own expense.

I guess that it is generally the case that a sugar daddy is compensating for some personal lack (maybe age, maybe lack of personal attractiveness?) in order to hook up with a woman who is younger or better looking...

But I'm thinking more of a mindset, which I see a lot here with various guys and their GW characters, of "Look how nicely I treat her, look how pretty she is, I give this girl all the best..." It's sort of gloaty, sort of paternal, sort of sugar-daddy.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 14, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by lakatz

Pardon me? Sugar-daddies-in-training? Sugar daddies are simply older men who date younger women and sweeten them up with gifts to get them to date them. I don't get your sugar-daddy connection to dressing up.

And OP, in reference to your subject line, "Basic Comprehension Problem," what are you having a problem comprehending? I can't tell from your post.

I think it should have been
fashion plate: a man who is much concerned with his dress and appearance

Personette · Jan 14, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

I think it should have been
fashion plate: a man who is much concerned with his dress and appearance

No, exactly the opposite. I'm talking about a man who offloads any concern with his own appearance (which he may think is unmanly) onto someone else, living vicariously through the fashion excesses of his beneficiary.

But I don't know, maybe y'all are fashion plates. Which is it?

Croco Clouds · Jan 14, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Well... u have to sell some stuffs in LA or Kamadan to get some cash, merchant won't make u rich at all.

lakatz · Jan 14, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

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Originally Posted by Personette

By sugar daddy I mean a guy who gets his kicks off of dolling someone else up, decking out a woman in clothes and shoes and handbags or whatever at his own expense.

I guess that it is generally the case that a sugar daddy is compensating for some personal lack (maybe age, maybe lack of personal attractiveness?) in order to hook up with a woman who is younger or better looking...

But I'm thinking more of a mindset, which I see a lot here with various guys and their GW characters, of "Look how nicely I treat her, look how pretty she is, I give this girl all the best..." It's sort of gloaty, sort of paternal, sort of sugar-daddy.

oh I get it. You're talking about the guys who perceive women as trophies... eeewwww yuck. Those guys come in all ages, but I sure hope that's not what is motivating the guys in GW. I hope their armor is all about aesthetics or at the very least epeens.

Dkraftwerk · Jan 14, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Personette

I have to say, I am pretty fascinated by the energy a lot of guys put into dressing up their characters. There must be tons of guys here who agonize about getting their armor combo right (do these shoes go with these pants? What about the dye?) but who fall asleep at the mere sight of a real clothing store and walk around every day in shapeless shlubby clothes.

What's the deal guys? Am I seeing a lot of sugar-daddies-in-training? Is this where it starts?

Today I'm wearing a monochromatic brown argyle merino wool sweater over a white and brown striped long sleeve shirt, with basic slightly distressed Levi's jeans and chocolate brown and mocha colored diesel shoes. Minus the shoes I spent under 40 bucks on the whole outfit.

So does that break the stereotype?

...and sorry to go off topic.

Rocky Raccoon · Jan 14, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Personette

No, exactly the opposite. I'm talking about a man who offloads any concern with his own appearance (which he may think is unmanly) onto someone else, living vicariously through the fashion excesses of his beneficiary.

But I don't know, maybe y'all are fashion plates. Which is it?

I was just saying that people who think they need the best armor in game fit the
definition of fashion plate more then sugar daddy as was mentioned by a previous post. a sugar daddy is a: a wealthy, middle-aged man who spends freely on a young woman in return for her companionship or intimacy.

lakatz · Jan 14, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

I was just saying that people who think they need the best armor in game fit the
definition of fashion plate more then sugar daddy as was mentioned by a previous post. a sugar daddy is a: a wealthy, middle-aged man who spends freely on a young woman in return for her companionship or intimacy.

fashion plate works. Thanks!

Monochromatic brown argyle merino wool sweater over a white and brown striped long sleeve shirt, with basic slightly distressed Levi's jeans and chocolate brown and mocha colored diesel shoes = fashion plate.

Minus the shoes I spent under 40 bucks on the whole outfit = wise shopper fashion plate.

Now back on topic, I'm still not comprehending just what the OP is not comprehending.

Dylananimus · Jan 14, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46

You don't pay monthly to play the game...so move on if it's not fun

You bought the game, you've played every aspect of it there is for you to play (like...all the missions, every quest, all the elite missions/quests, done plenty of PvP which includes GvG, AB, etc) and there's nothing left for you to do but desire expensive armor that you find it boring to 'work' for. I see only one option...stop playing.

There are plenty of us who will find lots to do within the game, that doesn't feel like 'work', or doesn't become boring extremely quickly. Hell, I've worked my way through Prophs, factions and NF but I can tell you right now I haven't done every single quest there is available. So...even though I 'finished' the campaings, I haven't really finished at all. Now and then I'll take a character and go do those quests I left behind, just as something different to do that isn't farming, or vanquishing, or gaining rep, or starting a new character to do it all again

We all find different things enjoyable...and some of us find some things enjoyable for longer than others. That's life. And this is just a game you're able to put down or walk away from, with nothing forcing you to play, no monthly fees you're tied to making you feel the 'need' to play until you're subscription is over. There are lotsa games out there

I'd suggest you didn't try other MMOs though - like WoW for instance - if you get bored so easily of 'grinding' for money. As far as I can tell (and from experience) this game has the least money grinding requirment than any other of similar ilk. All max armor and weapons, runes, insignias, upgrades, etc, can be gotten by playing the story through, and often by just collecting a handful of items monsters drop as you go. I can't think of many games that keep people on the same level as much as GW for so little, and there's really no neccessity to grind at all

Hope you find a game that's better suited to your needs